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Customer Reviews
Jodi Smith
00:58 15 Nov 18
I went here for the second time yesterday. Dr.Brown is very nice and knowledgeable. The office was very clean and professional. Both gals that cleaned my teeth were very nice and did a great job. I was very satisfied!read more
Kathy Miller
02:18 24 Oct 18
I have been going here I think since they opened the practice and have been satisfied with my care. I feel the treatment is professional and up to date. So as long as I have teeth, this is where I will take them!read more
Eliana Meiras
12:27 16 Oct 18
I would never expect to say that about a dentist visit but it's always a great experience. I highly recommend this place. They are always so welcoming and always making sure you are comfortable.read more
Doug H
16:15 09 Oct 18
Scottsdale Family Dentistry has outstanding staff and the latest equipment. They have a great attention to detail for your better health and well-being.read more
Amjad Alzubi
17:34 25 Sep 18
By far the best dentist and dental office I have been to (and i have been to many). The staff is so relaxed, and they make sure everyone is aware of what's going on.read more
Laura Alzubi
15:32 10 Sep 18
Dr. Drew Brown and staff are totally awesome! They are always so cheery and kind, providing excellent dental care. I am a very nervous patient, and they always treat me with the utmost patience...working with me to ensure my comfort.read more
Brian Halliday
03:02 07 Sep 18
The entire staff is very knowledgeable and professional. You don't have to wait long with an appointment and they are very accommodating to last minute changes for appointments. My daughter is very happy here!read more
Ian Scott
21:35 13 Aug 18
Dr Drew and his staff take care of my entire family’s dental needs. I wouldn’t consider going anywhere else. I feel confident and comfortable that he cares about my family.read more
Anna Hawkins
08:12 13 Aug 18
Awesome experience. I got my teeth cleaned here, and all of the staff I interacted with did a fantastic job. Dr. Brown is super helpful and was able to answer any questions I had. Least stressful dentist appointment I’ve had in a long time, so I’m rating them 5 stars overall.read more
Ken Parker
01:45 05 May 18
Was able to reserve an appointment on short notice.primary DDS was off today so this was a big plus to relieve my suffering. Staff was very timely and courteous with the appointment being on short notice. Dr. Knowledge was very high and I was explained what would happen along each step of the way and provided with a very adequate post op procedure And with a schedule or potential next steps depending on my Future decisioning On type of treatment follow up.read more
D. Bergner
17:05 03 May 18
This dentist and his medical staff and office are amazing!!
Extremely knowledgeable in all things dental as well as having a very pleasant and caring bedside manner!
I’ve been a Scottsdale Family Dentistry and Orthodontics patient for years and have referred them to many friends and family!
I was especially happy to find that when I needed a root canal I didn’t need to schedule an appointment with a different dentist because Doctor Brown takes care of root canals too......and immediately....and very well!
If you are looking for a new dentist, you can’t go wrong here!read more
Butch Buono
04:15 17 Apr 18
My first visit to Scottsdale Family Dentistry couldn't have gone better. Very thorough, honest and affordable exam by a very friendly, professional staff and state-of-the-art facility! I trust future visits will result in the same level of care, performance and integrity!read more
Eric Edwards
01:39 11 Apr 18
I have found a new home for all my dentistry needs. I found these guys by mistake (thinking they were another office) read their reviews and set an appt.
From reception to X-ray to dental hygienist and Doctor they are awesome. As well as Wendy the office manager. Great friendly service. They explain everything to you before doing anything. Taylor the hygienist cleaned my teeth and I have 12 veneers (usually there is a lot of pain and blood) Today, was a breeze.
I would recommend this office to anyone needing a great dentist with fair pricing and an awesome staff. Thank you guys!!!read more
Kristin Keehr
01:12 11 Apr 18
I am so very grateful to have become a patient at Scottsdale Family Dentistry & Orthodontics. I have attended four appointments within this past year and every one of them has been satisfactory. All of the dental hygienists portray substantial quality of care and compassion for patients. My most recent experience was with Kenneth and I am pleased to say that he ensured absolute comfort and precision of procedure. Dr. Brown, the main dentist, is efficient and gentle in his work as well as having a very amicable presence. I appreciate the cleanliness of the building as well. Thank you so much Dr. Brown and all associates at Scottsdale Family Dentistry & Orthodontics!! I absolutely recommend to anyone in need!
-Kread more
Brecken Hulse
14:32 04 Apr 18
I love coming here! Everyone is always so friendly and helpful. Had some issues with my insurance but Wendy was so sweet and talked me through it all to find out my insurance doesn't accept them, but she filled me in on their program. Also very close work but would be worth the drive either way!read more
Walker Van Dyke
16:39 05 Mar 18
(Post Date 3/5/2018)
Another Great Experience with the Team.
Walker
(Post Date 12/20/17)
I heard good things from a friend about Dr. Drew Brown and the medical team at Scottsdale Family Dentistry. It had been a little while since I had seem a dentist and was looking for a group I could trust.
I called to arrange an appointment (unknowingly after hours) and the call was forwarded to Wendy. I could tell she was driving and pulled her car over to take my appointment. How cool. That was the first sign that they had a good team there.
An appointment was made and I was warmly greeted by Renee who asked for me to fill out some new patient information which didn't take long. I waited very little time.
I was shown my room with Wynette who began to take some xrays of my teeth. Pretty painless and was quick and polite about her business. I only had one blurry image that needed to retaken.
It was interesting that Macayla took BEFORE pictures of my upper and lower teeth. I guess so that we all can see progression and improvement. I haven't been to a place that has done that before. ++ After my cleaning there was a big improvement and my teeth were whiter easily by a few shades - I have Taylor to thank for her cleaning skills. She worked the dental picks and tools so easily that I was completely at ease.
Dr Drew Brown introduced himself halfway through the cleaning with a warm greeting. He was nice and we talked about my dental history. He took a look around and didn't find anything noticeable.
Dr Brown has a experienced staff who are nice and honest. I would recommend them to a friend.read more
bill ettenger
13:41 02 Mar 18
I’m in Scottsdale for the winter season and I had a crown come loose. Dr. Brown was able to see me the day I called and was able to fix the crown that day. I was impressed with him and the quality of his staff and decided to see him again for my routine 6 month visit and cleaning rather than wait till I returned home. That visit was a very good experience also. I would definitely recommend this practice.read more
Vidya Rudra
06:00 30 Jan 18
The Dental Pediatrician is a magician who can mesmerize the kids and complete his duty. We are seeing this doctor for the last 6 year and every year there is a tremendous growth in the dental service to the kids. Dr Cohen is abreast with the latest trends in the Pediatric dentistry. My son hardly speaks to any body nor can communicate with any body verbally. But Cohen and my son had a verbal conversation for almost 45 min in a low pitch and simultaneously Dr Cohen did a filling. Respect and appreciate the Doctor's down to earth attitude. He was the person who gave light of hope with an epipen advise which we never heard of earlier which is a life savior.read more
Robert Towne
01:46 20 Dec 17
Fabulous. Lost a crown and they scheduled me for an hour after I called. I was a half hour early and they took me within 5 minutes. We’re very quick, professional and fun. No problems since.read more
David Medansky
15:06 19 Dec 17
I've been a patient with Scottsdale Family Dentistry for more than 20 years. They provide excellent service for a fair and reasonable price. They give great value. Based on some of my friends' experiences I know that finding a good dentist is difficult. If you want to have an awesome dentist as part of your health team, check out Scottsdale Family Dentistry. You'll be glad you did.read more
Dave Wyant
02:08 16 Nov 17
Dr. Drew Brown and his staff continue to impress me. During my latest visit for a checkup, a shallow buckle filling had become discolored and had flaked off during the exam. Dr. Drew was able to repair it during the same visit, in quick time and at reasonable cost. The resulting filling looked much better than the original. I am very pleased with the expertise, efficiency, and versatility of Scottsdale Family Dentistry.read more
William Hawkesworth
03:42 15 Nov 17
I decided the choice of treatment that I needed was to get an implant. I have been going to Dr. Brown for my regular dentistry, but I thought I should see what the others offer. I was amazed by quote the "Clear Choice." They offered a so called discount but that was it. It was "Clear" that's all they did, Jeez. They do implants but they don't offer dental services. Hum. In the end, after a lot of due diligence the clear choice was Scottsdale Family Dentistry. Dr. Brown did an awesome job. I feel really comfortable putting all my family's dental needs in his hands. He is our Family Dentist. Thank you for a job well done.read more
Carly Coombs
01:36 09 Nov 17
I was able to get an appointment within 2 days for a new client. Everyone in the office was very friendly and knowledge! Great neighborhood dentist office!read more
Nina Harlow
01:44 08 Nov 17
Wonderful professional practice. I've been coming here for a few years now and my husband and kids (3 & 5 years old) do as well. Ive always been able to get the appointment times I need and the staff has been amazing at getting us in on short notice for a couple dental emergency scares we've had with my kids.read more
Elias C
03:34 27 Oct 17
Dr. Brown and his staff are great! I got a implant and a couple of crowns done and the results at the end was amazing! I recommend to anyone looking for a dental office to go to!read more
terri chayeb
01:31 27 Oct 17
This is such a great office! My whole family comes here for their cleanings and what ever dental work needs to be done. Dr.brown and his staff are the best!read more
Kay C
15:21 26 Oct 17
I love this office! The staff is great and so welcoming! I usually have a fear of going to the dentist but once I came to this office I don't any more. I highly recommend going here!!read more
Michelle Peairs
16:45 25 Oct 17
I’ve been coming here for quite some time. Dr. Brown and his staffs are so nice and I’ve had multiple things done here.
Friendly and easy going atmosphere.
I’m not nervous going to the dentist anymore.
Highly recommended!read more
Barbara Davis
02:21 05 Oct 17
I have had nothing but fabulous care and professional friendly service ! They explain everything and ensure you are comfortable and understand all procedures . I have been several dental offices in my 69 years but I can truly say this is the best service friendliness and no discomfort in any procedures - awesome departments from start to end .read more
Morris Jessup
20:33 26 Sep 17
I am not a fan of Dentists. But the Doctor and team here are top notch. Very honest.
amy cooper
21:47 15 Sep 17
Couldn't have been more happy with Dr. Brown and the entire staff! Everyone was so friendly and kind. It makes going to the dentist a wonderful experience. I will be recommending them to everyone I know!read more
Grace Morgan
01:43 13 Sep 17
Very knowledgeable, welcoming staff. I appreciate all their efforts to help put me at ease, as I have been terrified of the dentist for a long time. Clean, comfortable environment. Quality at an affordable price!read more
Madelyn O'Shea
05:43 27 Aug 17
I received a flier from them and decided to give them a try. I was able to get in quickly to my surprise and get a special for first time guests. Front desk and assistants were very nice and helpful. They made time to explain everything and were able to even squeeze in some quick fillings etc I ended up needing. I had to remove my final wisdom tooth (no impacted or anything so did not need to be put under) and the dentist was so quick. It is always a bit scary knowing that your getting a tooth removed but with his speed, it really put my mind at ease. They have payment programs and discount programs you can use if you are not under insurance or hurting for money. I really like this dentist office and definitely recommend them!read more
Janae Hamilton
02:06 18 Aug 17
I love this dentist office! Everyone is so polite and welcoming, reminds me of home. My kids love going there and getting a treasure from the treasure box! Thank you everyone for making my dentist experience a blessing!read more
sonny sandoval
01:23 17 Aug 17
Highly recommend this dentist office. The whole staff is very friendly and knowledgeable. I use to hate to go to the dentist until I found this one about 2 years ago. They understand that patients have busy lives and they get you in and out quickly. No waiting around in the lobby for a long time for them to call you back. read more
mayra arellano
05:08 16 Aug 17
Love the atmosphere. Kayla chayeb is the best assistant I have ever had made me feel so comfortable. Love her she's the best assistant ever very helpful.read more
Kat Carpenter
23:37 14 Aug 17
Love this place! Everyone was so professional and extremely nice. Got right in and thoroughly enjoyed my teeth cleaning. Dr. Brown was friendly and very informative! I would recommend him to anyone and I'm picky!read more
Ezekielism
19:01 14 Aug 17
My son is currently in The process of wearing braces so we come back every 4 to 6 weeks they seem to be really kind efficient and gentle with him. Everyone always has a nice smile and answers questions thoroughly, a nice place I would recommend anyone.read more
Jim Preston
01:08 04 Aug 17
Dr Brown is a great dentist as well as all the staff. They explain problems and procedures well to you so you understand what is going on and what they are planning to do. I would recommend this office to anyone! Thank you for a great job!read more
Lori Riches
05:41 03 Aug 17
My tooth extraction was easy and painless...I have a fear of dentists and Dr. Brown made it so easy it was done and over before I knew it..in fact it was easier than past experiences I've had with simple fillings! I highly recommend Scottsdale Family Dentistry.read more
Garvin Sutton
22:06 28 Jun 17
I have been going to this office for several years and have had excellent service. What really clinched it for me was that my daughter had already started braces somewhere else and after her initial exam Dr. Brown said that she really didn't need braces. At the time she was kinda young and was too soon to determine so i got them removed against the advice of the other orthodontist. 4 years later she still doesn't need braces.read more
Brian Bogdanowicz
12:45 17 Jun 17
Having moved from Chicago and not had a routine cleaning in over a year, I sought out an in-network practice. They accommodated my needs in a very timely manner and every interaction with staff was with positivity and ease. Everything about this location is welcoming and professional. The care is quality.read more
Geri Spybrook
01:47 06 Jun 17
Very good experience. I had an emergency situation and they were able to see me the next work day. Everyone was very friendly and professional and helpful in explaining my options for treatment. I will definitely be recommending them to anyone in need of a good dentist.read more
Paul Fox
16:56 03 Jun 17
Scottsdale Family Dentistry is a very professionally run, friendly dentist office. The front desk is courteous, helpful and friendly. The staff is excellent (Taylor and Mr F are wonderful), and Dr Brown is professional, friendly, and a real nice guy. They spend whatever amount of time is needed to make you feel comfortable, and to do the job right. The office is state of the art and has all the customer amenities.read more
Dani Pritt
20:37 02 Jun 17
Been coming here for years and absolutely love it! They really know what they are doing and Taylor just absolutely rocks. She makes me feel so comfortable and I leave rocking a big smile every time! Highly recommended!!read more
Jared Landrum
18:15 26 May 17
We absolutely love Scottsdale family dentistry. Taylor the hygienist is so personable and great with any age. Dr. Brown always gives the most detail and the best solution to solve any dental issue.read more
Lorie Brewer
17:47 18 May 17
If you want a gentle dentist, Dr. Brown is the best! His staff is amazing and friendly! The hygienist is also very gentle and takes the time to educate. Overall great treatment with a warm atmosphere!read more
linda ward
16:17 16 May 17
Wonderful experience! Clean office, Friendly staff and Doctor Brown was nice, he's very professional and took time to explain things to me. Very satisfied with this office.read more
Brenda Creelman
21:54 03 May 17
Love this office! My hygienist, Taylor, is awesome. She has that special extra care with patients to ensure you not only leave with clean teeth but know what proper care techniques you need in between visits. Office staff is friendly and professional and last but not least my experience with Doctor Brown was very pleasant. I highly recommend Scottsdale Family Dentistry.read more
Kira Bartlemus
17:43 01 Mar 17
Excellent experience! Haven't been to the dentist in 11 years. Everyone is so nice and friendly. Definitely coming back for sure and will be bringing my 3 boys too.read more
Stefanie Franco
17:37 01 Mar 17
I have to say that my experience here was great! I had to have procedures which I hadn't had done before, the staff put me at ease. Kenny truly enjoys his job and was able to answer my questions. Dr. Brown was able to extract my tooth with no pain and very quickly. I am very happy with my visits. The office is clean and modern with friendly front office staff. My experience was great and I am hopeful that yours will be just as good or better.read more
Ean Johnson
19:56 20 Feb 17
I've been coming to Scottsdale Family Dentistry got about a year now. I hadn't been to a dentist in a while before I visited and the service has been great. Great assistants and great dentists. Would highly recommend.read more
Melody Rose
17:45 13 Feb 17
The staff is so amazing! Darla the office manager is so wonderful and helpful! All the ladies make the experience so smooth, not at all stressful, and remarkable quick! I highly recommend this office. read more
Billy Santiago
19:23 10 Feb 17
I have nothing but great things to say about this office. first class service all the way. Dr Brown and staff treat me and my family with respect and kindness. I live in Gilbert but this dentistry office is worth the 45 min ? drive... Recommend ???read more
Stephanie Voss
15:11 07 Feb 17
The team at Scottsdale family dentistry is wonderful. They are very professional and knowledgeable. I would recommend them to anyone looking for a dentist.read more
Alex Champa
18:40 06 Feb 17
Experience went well for the first time here. X-rays, pictures, and cleaning all done in the first visit. The staff were kind and welcoming, and most of all they didn't bullshit me. They told me my issues and the solutions for the issues, which I appreciated.read more
Heather Hespeler
17:01 31 Jan 17
I Love Dr. Brown. He's so gentle and knowledgeable. The staff is super friendly too. My whole family comes here for preventative, treatments, and orthodontics. Wouldn't go anywhere else.read more
Lorraine Delarosa
23:39 26 Jan 17
Best dental experience for me. I'm very afraid of dental work. Dr Brown is the only dentist I will go to. Staff is outstanding!!!
michael dela cruz
17:16 18 Jan 17
been going here for 3-4 years and always have a great experience. And whenever I have some questions the staffs are very informative and helpful, I highly recommend this to others.read more
Allison Liddell
16:57 06 Jan 17
The office staff are always friendly, professional, and on top of what they are doing. We have never had to wait past our appointment time. Also, there are never any cost surprises. The office is very up front about procedures and never pushes anything. I am happy with the service we have received from the dentist and would highly recommend him and his office.read more
George Sutton
23:24 05 Jan 17
Great professional staff and Doctor! They were very friendly and timely! Highly recommend!
Megan Francis
16:53 05 Jan 17
Been going here for four years and always have a great experience. The dentist isn't my favorite place to be, but they make it as painless experience as possible! Love everyone here!! ?read more
R Lowry
17:50 19 Dec 16
I had a great experience! Friendly and professional environment that made this visit fly by! Keep up the high level of service!
Tom Angela
20:27 16 Dec 16
I have been coming here for over a year and everything goes so smooth and efficient I do my appointment and return quickly. The service is great - I would definitely recommend to others.read more
Pam Kaufman
19:28 15 Dec 16
Great cleaning and care today from Kathy, Dr Brown and Darla! Thanks for taking care of my teeth!!
jason mitchell
21:38 13 Dec 16
I was worried when first came in. The staff was very nice and helpful. Made me feel very relaxed and comfortable. Everyone was very professional I would recommend them to family and friends.read more
Brian A.
20:30 10 Dec 16
Great Dentist and Dental Hygienist. Took my 6 year old and they are great with kids. They have Chromecast TVs in every exam room which is great to keep the kids busy. A+read more
Stewart Hamblin
19:41 03 Dec 16
Dr Brown is a fantastic dentist, my family and I have been seeing him for the past 6 years. He is always quick and his work quality is the best of any dentist I have had. Can't recommend Dr Brown enough.read more
Christal Roundtree
00:17 02 Dec 16
Awesome dentist office! The staff is friendly and professional, and funny! I highly recommend Dr. Drew and staff.
Jessica Goldfarb
19:09 16 Nov 16
From the front desk to the hygienists to Dr. Drew everyone is extremely friendly, professional and courteous. They are always right on time and do an amazing job on my teeth. We are so happy with this team!read more
Jessica Goldfarb
19:09 16 Nov 16
From the front desk to the hygienists to Dr. Drew everyone is extremely friendly, professional and courteous. They are always right on time and do an amazing job on my teeth. We are so happy with this team!read more
Mort man
17:40 04 Nov 16
We live out of state but always schedule a dental visit for the entire family whenever we are in town visiting relatives. We stumbled upon this office years ago when our son had a toothache. We got in the next morning and instantly knew we would not go to any other dentist back home but schedule with Dr. Drew every time we visit the Phoenix area. His staff can always fit us in the week we are visiting and we look forward to our dental appointments as part of our vacations. Dr. Drew and his staff are very professional but also fun and laid back. They relate so well to each of my kids. I have and will continue to recommend this office to anyone looking for a great dentist in the valley.read more
Mort man
17:40 04 Nov 16
We live out of state but always schedule a dental visit for the entire family whenever we are in town visiting relatives. We stumbled upon this office years ago when our son had a toothache. We got in the next morning and instantly knew we would not go to any other dentist back home but schedule with Dr. Drew every time we visit the Phoenix area. His staff can always fit us in the week we are visiting and we look forward to our dental appointments as part of our vacations. Dr. Drew and his staff are very professional but also fun and laid back. They relate so well to each of my kids. I have and will continue to recommend this office to anyone looking for a great dentist in the valley.read more
Nareli Bencomo
20:33 03 Nov 16
Great and friendly Staff from the front desk to the back , Doctor was very professional and informative ! Highly recommend
Nareli Bencomo
20:33 03 Nov 16
Great and friendly Staff from the front desk to the back , Doctor was very professional and informative ! Highly recommend
John Kontak
19:50 27 Oct 16
The people inside this office really care about the patient experience. I have always hated going to the dentist because of a bad experience I had as a kid. Everyone from Renee at the front desk to Taylor as a hygienist to Dr. Brown was really sensitive to my discomfort. I would recommend anyone of any age to start going to this office. Truly a wonderful experience!read more
John Kontak
19:50 27 Oct 16
The people inside this office really care about the patient experience. I have always hated going to the dentist because of a bad experience I had as a kid. Everyone from Renee at the front desk to Taylor as a hygienist to Dr. Brown was really sensitive to my discomfort. I would recommend anyone of any age to start going to this office. Truly a wonderful experience!read more
Matt S
21:30 24 Jul 15
Great experience. I got one of their flyers in the mail for $19 cleaning. They were able to schedule me the next week. I filled out some paper work and started my appointment within 5 minutes of the scheduled time. The front desk, assistants, dentists and hygienists, are extremely nice. During X-rays, the dentist introduced himself and got to know me. During my exam the dentist informed me of a small cavity I had. He went through the options and discussed preventative care the a good healthcare practitioner. Being a student with no insurance, they were willing to work with me on the pricing and were very nice about everything with complete understanding. I will continue to go there for all my dental work. read more
Google User
21:30 24 Jul 15
Great experience. I got one of their flyers in the mail for $19 cleaning. They were able to schedule me the next week. I filled out some paper work and started my appointment within 5 minutes of the scheduled time. The front desk, assistants, dentists and hygienists, are extremely nice. During X-rays, the dentist introduced himself and got to know me. During my exam the dentist informed me of a small cavity I had. He went through the options and discussed preventative care the a good healthcare practitioner. Being a student with no insurance, they were willing to work with me on the pricing and were very nice about everything with complete understanding. I will continue to go there for all my dental work. read more
Matt S
21:30 24 Jul 15
Great experience. I got one of their flyers in the mail for $19 cleaning. They were able to schedule me the next week. I filled out some paper work and started my appointment within 5 minutes of the scheduled time. The front desk, assistants, dentists and hygienists, are extremely nice. During X-rays, the dentist introduced himself and got to know me. During my exam the dentist informed me of a small cavity I had. He went through the options and discussed preventative care the a good healthcare practitioner. Being a student with no insurance, they were willing to work with me on the pricing and were very nice about everything with complete understanding. I will continue to go there for all my dental work. read more
Dave Wyant
18:06 04 Feb 15
Dr. Drew Brown and his staff continue to impress me. During my latest visit for a checkup, a shallow buckle filling had become discolored and had flaked off during the exam. Dr. Drew was able to repair it during the same visit, in quick time and at reasonable cost. The resulting filling looked much better than the original. I am very pleased with the expertise, efficiency, and versatility of Scottsdale Family Dentistry.read more
Michael Chieffe
19:02 22 Sep 14
I have never had any oral work done and I went to go get a couple cavities filled. Dr. Brown was very gentle and understanding that I was a little nervous for the fillings. I did not feel any pain whatsoever and it was over before I knew it. I was completely comfortable my entire visit. The staff was friendly and very nice. I definitely recommend this office!read more
Michael Chieffe
19:02 22 Sep 14
I have never had any oral work done and I went to go get a couple cavities filled. Dr. Brown was very gentle and understanding that I was a little nervous for the fillings. I did not feel any pain whatsoever and it was over before I knew it. I was completely comfortable my entire visit. The staff was friendly and very nice. I definitely recommend this office!read more
Dave Wyant
17:44 03 Sep 14
I went in for a root canal and crown. I was very pleased that Dr. Drew could do the root canal himself and not have to send me out to another office. Dr. Drew is a great guy, very personable and friendly, and is also very proficient with his dental work. The office is clean and the staff is very pleasant. read more